Can we disagree well about Salvation? - The Whole Church Podcast

Episode 216

Can we disagree well about Salvation?

Tripp Fuller joins Joshua Noel to discuss various atonement theories that have existed in the history of the Church and how the Church has historically disagreed about the nature of Salvation and how it works! The Church has always agreed about the presence and experience of Jesus and Salvation but has not always agreed about how it works. Today many theories are still popular, so we ask if it's possible for people who hold to different atonement theories to get along in Christian Unity!


What is the earliest atonement theory? What are the beliefs of atonement? What does Jesus say about Atonement? What is the difference between atonement and repentance? What does the New Testament say about atonement? What is the penal substitutionary theory of the atonement? Did Luther believe in penal substitutionary atonement? Do Catholics reject penal substitution? What does it mean to be ransomed by Jesus? What is the moral transformation theory? What is the Lutheran atonement theory? What is the moral government theory?


In this episode, we will:

  • Discuss various theories of atonement
  • Deconstruct the problems with Penal Substitution Theory
  • Explore what our atonement theories reveal about our views of the Divine
  • Explain why we favor some views over others


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Joshua Noel

I am from Knoxville, TN. Grew up in Florida and Charlotte, NC. I have a Bachelor's Degree in Biblical Studies, am preparing to attend Law School at the University of South Carolina, have co-hosted "The Whole Church Podcast" with my best friend TJ Blackwell for four years, and I have been involved in local ministries for 15 years now. I'm pretty huge into hermeneutics, U.S. Constitutional Law, and Biblical theology, and my favorite TV show is "Doctor Who".

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TJ Blackwell

TJ was born and now lives. He now co-hosts The Whole Church podcast

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